Showing posts with label Suboxone. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Suboxone. Show all posts

Saturday, March 30, 2013

My (Ongoing) Taper with Suboxone

Hello Everyone,

Welcome back to my blog about opiate addiction. As many of you already know from reading my previous blog entries, I am currently taking part in a Suboxone program due to my addiction to Oxycodone. I have been on Suboxone for just under a year now and know my time on this medication is coming to an end soon. This is something that both excites me and scares. Something I look forward to yet dread. Something I know I must do but would like to put off for "just a little longer." In the end, it is something I must come to terms with, face, and overcome if I ever want to live a life truly free of opiates. Therefore, I would like to use this particular post to talk about my taper on Suboxone, where I am at now with my recovery, and where I want to be in the end of it all.

Quick History

To give you guys a quick history of my situation in regards to Suboxone, I'll start with what got me there in the first place. I was addicted to the Oxycodone 30 mg pills for about 2 years and during the last few months I was abusing these pills before I got help, I was taking between 150-300 mg a day depending on what I could afford and get my hands on. I had tried to quit numerous times cold turkey but the farthest I could ever make it was 2 weeks. Most of the time when I tried going cold turkey, it would only last a matter of days before I would eventually cave in and use again. The lack of sleep, constant restlessness, brutal cold chills, and ongoing anxiety and depression really made it difficult for me to quit. This is when I came across Suboxone.


I had a few people and friends I knew who were or had been on Suboxone due to an addiction to Oxycodone so I figured this was my best shot. I figured, I could take a pill to avoid any withdrawal from the Oxycodone that wouldn't get me high, get my life back together, and then make the jump off of Suboxone. I also figured because I wouldn't (not couldn't) abuse the Suboxone, it would be easier to come off something that I didn't, well, like to get high off of.

I did a whole post on my experience with getting on Suboxone, if you guys would like to check it out by clicking Here.

Basically, I was started on 4 mg of Suboxone once a day. These were the 8/2 mg strips/films meaning that there was 8 mg of Buprenorphine and 2 mg of Naloxone in each strip/film. I would start out by taking half of a strip once a day. After about 5 months, my dose would be lowered to 2 mg once a day where I would take 1 mg in the morning and 1 mg at night. A little over 2 months later, my dose was again lowered to 1 mg once a day with .5 mg in the morning and .5 mg at night. This is the dose I am currently on as I write this post.

The 8 mg films/strips I was first prescribed. I took a half of a film/strip (4 mg) once a day when I first started Suboxone.
 
The films/strips I am currently taking now. I currently take half of film/strip each day (1 mg)

How Bad Was It?
 
The first few days on Suboxone weren't a walk in the park by any means but it was also not Hell on Earth either. I had little energy, was somewhat depressed, had random chills, and felt some minor aches/pains but these symptoms were all bearable. After about a week on the Suboxone, I felt close to 100 % and was able to get on with my life. I still had cravings to use but these went away for the most part after about a month on the Suboxone.
 
My Suboxone doctor told me I was lucky to be starting out at a relatively low dose and that some of her patients were being put on anywhere from 16-24 mg during induction. While my doctor isn't the greatest doctor in the world, I can honestly say she does look out for her patients if they are really looking to get clean and is not someone who is simply in it for the money. She told me how she tries to put her patients on the lowest dose possible when they first come in to help make the taper easier for both parties. However, she also mentioned how it is not uncommon for patients to come back after a few days saying they need more Subxone and that she will usually increase their dose if she can tell they really want to get clean and are being honest. She noted how if increasing their dose early on will help them get with the program and prevent them from using, it's a risk she is willing to take.
 
Anyways, back to my particular situation. After being on 4 mg of Suboxone for about 5 months, I made the jump to 2 mg once a day. I was a little nervous when this first happened. However, I can honestly say I felt absolutely no negative side effects or symptoms from my reduction in dosage. I was pretty shocked by this, especially for someone who was using so much Oxycodone to begin with. I think the key to this is to be honest with yourself when your figuring out how much Suboxone you really need. I think a lot of it is mental too. Try to give yourself enough time on your dose to see if you really need to take more and that it is not your mind playing tricks on you making you think that because you take less, you will withdraw. However, everyone is different and I realize every one's situation won't be the same as mine. In the end, only you will truly know your body and what works and doesn't works for you.
 
Another thing I want to bring is up is cravings during my time on 2 mg. I must say that although I did relapse, the cravings were not really present or intense during my time on this dose. I didn't relapse while I was on the 4 mg but I honestly don't think the reduction in my dose had anything to do with my relapse. When I did relapse, it was from me being a knucklehead and putting myself among a crowd of the wrong people with the wrong stuff. I could had simply said no and went my way but I didn't. I managed to get back on the sober train pretty quick and painlessly in the end, although if I could go back and do it all over again, I would have never used and put myself in that situation.
 
When I made the jump from 2 mg to 1 mg, this is where things got interesting. For the most part I am pretty comfortable during the day after I take my morning dose of .5 mg. I would say I'm probably at around 80-85 percent during the day and only get occasional chills or body aches sometimes. However, come nighttime, I can begin to feel myself needing that 2nd dose of .5 mg. I don't feel horrible, but I'll start getting the chills, a runny nose, a feeling of restlessness, and minor anxiety. Once I take my 2nd and final dose of the day of .5 mg I feel fine and am able to go to bed. Sometimes I might wake up early in the morning due to restless legs or the chills, probably indicting I am ready for my next dose. It can suck but all in all, just a minor inconvenience at most.
 
Thus far, I would defiantly say the biggest challenge of my taper has been the drop from 2 mg to 1 mg. While most of the side effects and symptoms are bearable, they can still be a bit of a pain and nuisance. However, they are no where near the full blown withdrawal I would feel if I were to begin withdrawing from Oxycodone cold turkey. As for cravings, I still do get them sometimes but can usually keep them at bay by keeping myself busy or distracted.
 
Since my drop to 1 mg once a day, I have been prescribed and have been taking a few medications to help with these symptoms. The first medication is Clonidine, which is used to help combat high blood pressure, the chills and cold sweats, restlessness, and lack of sleep some people get while withdrawing from opiates. I only take this medication at night (.2 mg) as it makes me drowsy. This medication certainly isn't an end all for withdrawal but it does help, especially with the sleep. The next medication I take is Advil which surprisingly helps quite a bit with achy joints and muscle cramps. I used to always laugh at the though of taking a medication like Advil when I was putting hundreds of milligrams of Oxycodone in my body but must say, the medication does help. The final medication I take is Requip, which is used to help with the restless legs. I take 1 mg at night but have found this medication to mediocre at best. 
 
The Next Step
 
 
I have talked with my doctor and stressed to her that I want to be at the lowest dose possible before I make the jump off of Suboxone to help avoid or minimize any potential withdrawal. Thankfully, she has been for the most part understanding and I think the next step will be to lower my dose from 1 mg to .5 mg once a day with .25 mg in the morning and .25 mg at night. I can only imagine what this will feel like but am confident I am moving in the right direction. I plan on making the jump off of Suboxone around .25 mg (maybe less if possible). Hopefully everything will go smoothly and according to plan but I am aware and prepared if I need a little more time.
 
I'm not really sure what kind of medications my doctor will prescribe me when I make the jump off of Suboxone as each doctor is different with his or her methods and beliefs. I'm hoping to continue getting and taking the Clonidine, Requip, and Advil. I am also hoping I can get something such as Xanex and Ambien to help with the restlessness, anxiety, and sleep issues that so often come along with opiate withdrawal. I plan on taking these medications for no more than 2 weeks due the risk of developing an addiction to some them, especially any Benzo.
 
I have heard Suboxone withdrawal is milder than the withdrawals one would experience form Oxycodone, Heroin, and other opiates but that the withdrawal from Suboxone tends to last longer. Basically, I'm anticipating going through a long, difficult month before things start to get better and easier once I make jump off of Suboxone. I'm not going to lie, I am very nervous and even scared that the withdrawal might be to difficult or that the cravings and mental aspect of it might push to me to use again. This is where I must use the skills and coping mechanisms I have learned over the past several months to overcome these obstacles. I got myself into this situation so I must have the courage, strength, effort, and willpower to get myself out of it.
 
Some Good Information About Suboxone Taper & Withdrawal
 
There is a lot of information out there on the internet about tapering off of Suboxone in addition to Suboxone withdrawal. This information also includes stories from people who have actually experienced or took part in Suboxone withdrawal or a taper regime. I have posted a few links below that I think might be helpful to some of you guys.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
There are literally thousands of websites, blogs, and posts regarding Suboxone out there on the internet in addition to the ones I just posted. If you simply type in "Suboxone", "Suboxone Taper", or "Suboxone Withdrawal", you'll find yourself with tons of information at your disposal. Remember, knowledge is power!
 
Was Suboxone the Right Choice?
 
Since the very first day I got on Suboxone and even before I made the decision to get on the drug, I have asked myself is getting on Suboxone the right choice? I don't have an answer right now for you guys but I do have some input in regards to my particular situation.
 
My addiction to Oxycodone was really having an impact on my life and hurting not only myself but those closest to me. I was lying, spending thousands of dollars, and beginning to change as a person. While I still managed to successfully work and go to school, my heart and mind was never truly in it and involved. I was simply going through the motions, high on Oxycodone, and thinking about when and how I would score my next batch of pills. It wasn't living. It was just surviving life by dulling out any pain or emotion with the pills. Most importantly, it wasn't the real me.
 
As I mentioned, I had tried quitting Oxycodone cold turkey several times but each time ended up falling back to my old ways and habits. It was a never ending, painful cycle. My habit had grown to a ridiculous amount and the amount of money and things I was doing to get that money was something I still cringe at today. I needed to change.
 
 
So for me, getting on Suboxone helped me do that. I have managed to remain clean for the most part while being able to attend school, work, and spend time with family and friends. Things I would have never been able to do while withdrawing from Oxycodone. I think if someone can go cold turkey without having to quit school or their job, then that is great. But for me, it was something I couldn't do while going to school and working so I needed another option.
 
Since being on Suboxone, I have continued to work, go school, build sober support, learn coping mechanisms, meet the right people and get away from the wrong ones, and learn to live a life of not having to constantly worry about how and when to get these devilish pills. I have found that Suboxone is particularly helpful in allowing one time to figure out how to turn their life around and get rid of the old, bad habits of past. These steps are extremely important in learning to live as a sober individual.
 
At the same time, I know I am still on an opiate and will most likely face some kind of withdrawal in the end. I ask myself, will the withdrawal from Suboxone be easier or harder to face, longer or shorter, bearable or unbearable? These are all serious questions that I have still have no answer to. I have spent countless hours talking to people along with reading and researching on the Internet about people who have experienced or overcame Suboxone withdrawal only to get about a thousand different responses with some ranging form total Hell on Earth to a walk in the park. In the end, I must realize that everyone and their situation is different so I can't base everything on what someone says just like you guys can't base everything on this post you are reading right now. EVERYONE is different.
 
To sum things up, I can honestly say I am, as of right now, happy I made the decision to get on Suboxone. I know some people bash Suboxone and look at it as trading one drug for another, but if it wasn't for Suboxone, I would probably be out getting high, hurting the people I love and care for most, and destroying my life, morals, and reputation. I don't think there is really any way to totally avoid withdrawals when getting off opiates but I hope through my taper I am able to at least minimize them. I know withdrawals are just a fact of life and part of this game we put ourselves into, so I must be a man and face them at some point. Like my consoler always say, "this will probably be the hardest thing to accomplish in your life but is something you will feel so proud, happy, and good about if you overcome it."
 
Conclusion
 
I want to thank you guys once again for taking the time to read my blog and I really hope I can help some of you who find yourselves in a similar situation. Hopefully we can all find the strength and willpower to beat this thing we call addiction. It's not easy but it is possible, something we must all remember.
 
I would love to hear from you guys in the comment section about what you think of my situation. Any tips, suggestions, or past experiences would be greatly appreciated. Also, feel free to ask any questions or comment about anything that's on your mind. I will respond to each and every comment as soon as I can.
 
Thanks again Guys and take care. And remember, keep seeing that light.
 
Until next time,
 
Seeingthelight


Wednesday, March 27, 2013

I'm Back!

Hi Guys,

Hope everyone is doing well. I want to start this post off by apologizing to my fellow readers and friends. It's been awhile. I got a new laptop a few months ago and ended up losing my password and user name for my blog. Because of this, I have been unable to post on my blog. I plan on getting back to posting as often as I can and I hope I can continue to help some people in regards to opiate addiction.

I would also like to take a second to thank you guys for not only ready my posts but for also commenting on them. I think discussion can be really beneficial and helpful for everyone involved in this blog (myself included). I will try my best to read and reply to every one's comments. So please, keep the comments, questions, and thoughts coming!



I think the best way to write this post is to give you guys a quick update on how my recovery is going and where I am. I have some good news and some bad news...

I'll start with the bad news. I have been on Suboxone for about a year now and have been for the most part, pretty successful in my recovery. However, I have had a few bumps. I made it about 6 months of doing no drugs besides the Suboxone before I eventually caved in and messed up. I went on what I would call a "binge" and ended up getting high on my drug of choice, Oxycodone, for a couple of days. I actually had 3 periods of this. Each time lasted about 3 or 4 days before I ended up back on the sober train. I'm upset I did this after the hard work and dedication I put into my recovery but have learned to come to terms with myself and get back to a life of sobriety. I have now been clean for 45 days as I am writing this post (3/27/13).

It hasn't been easy but I'm surviving. It actually made me realize just how difficult recovery can be and how quick and easy it is for old habits to sneak up on you. I looked back on myself and the things that were going on at the time and have decided the most likely reasons for my relapse were stress, hanging out with the wrong people, boredom, and simply giving in to wanting to get high.

Despite these relapses, I have managed to continue my Suboxone treatment. I was able to avoid testing positive for Oxycodone during my drugs tests by providing myself with enough time (3-4 days) before having to take my weekly drug test at the Suboxone clinic. I want to be honest with you guys and not be someone who preaches something yet doesn't think the rules apply to his or her self. I never told my consular or doctor of my relapses and instead simply went on with the program. If you want my recommendation on what to do if you find yourself in a similar situation, I would tell you to be honest with not only your doctor, consular, and support team but with yourself as well. Once again, that's what I would recommend, not what I actually went out and did myself.

To give you guys a quick history of my story with addiction, I'll start out with what was my drug of choice. I had about a 2 year addiction with the Oxycodone 30 mg pills. I would snort/sniff these pills and was doing them daily, usually taking at least 150 mg a day but would take as much as I could afford/get my hands on. I came clean about my addiction with my girlfriend, family, and some friends and decided to seek help at a Suboxone clinic. I was initially prescribed 4 mg of Suboxone once a day. After about 4 or 5 months on 4 mg, my dose was reduced to 2 mg a day. I would take 1 mg in the morning and 1 mg at night. I was on this dose for about 3 months until my dose was lowered once again to 1 mg a day (.5mg in the morning, .5mg at night). I have been at this dose for about 2 months now.

The jump from 4mg to 2mg was actually very easy. In fact, I felt absolute no withdrawal at all or any negative side effects from my reduction in dosage. However, the jump from 2 mg to 1 mg has been somewhat of a different story. While I feel pretty good and normal most of the day, I can usually begin to feel some discomfort by the end of the day before my second dosing. These withdrawals are minor and usually consist of a runny nose, restless legs, random cold chills, and minor anxiety. I also begin feeling these withdrawals in the early morning around 5 or 6 in the morning before my next dose (usually around 10 a.m.). My best guess is I am feeling my previous dose wearing off and my body is looking for the next dose. Again, these symptoms have been pretty minor but can still suck when I have to work or go to school.

To help combat these symptoms, I talked with my doctor and was prescribed a few medications. These include Clonidine, Requip, and Advil. The Clonidine has been great at night for sleep and does seem to help a little bit with chills and restlessness. I haven't really noticed much of a difference with the Requip, which was prescribed to help with the restless legs. Surprisingly, the Advil has actually been pretty effective with the aches and pains I sometimes get.

While I am certainly happy I am now at a relatively low dose of the Suboxone, I am somewhat fearful of how difficult it will be when I again have to lower my dose when the time comes. I am even more scared about when the time comes to make the jump off of Suboxone completely. My plan is to jump off the Suboxone at as small of a dose as possible to help avoid or limit any potential withdrawal symptoms. If things get tough after I make the jump off of the Suboxone and I am feeling overwhelmed or facing intense cravings, I think I will give the Vivitrol shot a shot (no pun intended).

That's basically where I've been over the past few months since I last posted on here. I am so glad to finally be able to once again access my account and talk with you guys. It really helps to vent, hear others share their experiences, and to have the opportunity to help others as well. My next two posts are going to be about the rapid detox method and ways to taper off of Suboxone. I would like to dedicate the rest of this blog to you guys. In the comment section, please comment about a topic you would like me to address, ask any questions or comments you have, or simply pop in to say hello.

Thanks a lot Guys for reading and it's great to be back. I haven't said this in awhile so here it goes: Through times of desperation, difficulties, and darkness, remember to keep seeing the light!

-Take Care Guys,

Seeingthelight

Friday, August 31, 2012

Some Good Quotes About Addiction

Hello and welcome back my friends! Hope all is going well for everyone on the other side of the computer. This is now my tenth post and I am so happy to have made it to the double digit mark. I've noticed the views for this blog continue to grow and even got a comment the other day which basically made my day (man, my life is boring). In all seriousness, thank you guys as each and every one of you guys are important to this blog. After all, I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for you. Just too bad we all know one another as a result of a rather gloomy topic but oh well...

I wanted to make this post different from my previous posts so I decided to dedicate this post to quotes and motivational material in regards to addiction. There really isn't a hell of a lot of stuff for me to say on this post so I'm going to leave this one for guys. I'll toss in some quotes that I know of or have seen/heard over time to get things started. I think quotes can sometimes be a bit overused or dramatic in the addiction community (how many times have you seen or heard someone throwing quotes about addiction out of their ass? If you're like me, too many.) but I do think they can defiantly serve a purpose. I think because addiction is often such a gloomy, shitty experience to be involved in in the first place, that a nice, little motivational speech or quote can help lift one's spirits every once in a while.

Inspiration

Basically, the way I'm going to go about this post is to just provide you guys with a bunch of quotes that I know of and feel are worth sharing. I also included a few quotes about addiction that have a rather humorous tone to them. I'll leave the rest to you guys. Feel free to provide your quotes, motivational speeches, or inspirational stories. Or, feel welcome to talk about your own quote or one of the quotes mentioned on here that you perhaps liked or found "hit home". Lets get a good conversation here guys, I'm counting on you!

Alright, here's what I got for you guys. I'll put the quotes in blue front below this paragraph.

This group of quotes I got online from the website Quotes Motivational. The website has a ton of quotes about almost anything in life and there is section dedicated to quotes about overcoming addiction. There's a lot of quotes on the website so I just put down the ones I really liked and thought might be useful for readers of my blog. Like I said, there's a lot more and I think you guys would enjoy reading some of them. if you're interested click here .

"Life is meant to be a celebration! It shouldn't be necessary to set aside special times to remind us of this fact. Wise is the person who finds a reason to make every day a special one."Overcoming Addiction Quote by Leo F. Buscaglia (March 1924 - June 1998)

"Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark, in the hopeless swamps of the approximate, the not-quite, the not-yet, the not-at-all. Do not let the hero in your soul perish, in lonely frustration for the life you deserved, but have never been able to reach. Check your road and the nature of your battle. The world you desired can be won. It exists, it is real, it is possible, it is yours."Ayn Rand Quote for Overcoming Addiction

Life is very interesting... in the end, some of your greatest pains, become your greatest strengths.Drew Barrymore Quote for Overcoming Addiction

"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to success is more important than any other one thing."
Abraham Lincoln Quote for Overcoming Addiction

 
"One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."
Andre Gide (November 22, 1869 - February 19, 1951) quote

 
"You must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessings."
Andrew Jackson (March 15, 1767 - June 8, 1845) quote


"When everything seems like an uphill struggle, just think of the view from the top"Overcoming Addiction Quote by Unknown

"No one's happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy."Motivational Quote by Ayn Rand

"A man who dares to waste one hour of life has not discovered the value of life."Motivational quote by Charles Darwin (February 1809 - April 1882)

"Every day, in every way, I am getting better and better."Emile Coue (1857-1926) Overcoming Addiction Quote

"Never bend your head. Always hold it high. Look the world straight in the face."Overcoming Addiction Quote by Helen Keller

"Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved."Helen Keller Overcoming Addiction Quote
 
Some pretty funny quotes about addiction for you guys...

“I admire addicts. In a world where everybody is waiting for some blind, random disaster or some sudden disease, the addict has the comfort of knowing what will most likely wait for him down the road. He's taken some control over his ultimate fate, and his addiction keeps the cause of his death from being a total surprise" - Chuck Palahniuk

“Even as a junkie I stayed true [to vegetarianism] - 'I shall have heroin, but I shan't have a hamburger.' What a sexy little paradox." - Russell Brand

“Whether you sniff it smoke it eat it or shove it up your ass the result is the same: addiction.”- William S. Burroughs

“Even when I took the drugs I realized that this just wasn't fun anymore. The drugs had become a part of my routine. Something to wake me up. Something to help me sleep. Something to calm my nerves. There was a time when I was able to wake up, go to sleep, and have fun without a pill or a line to help me function. These days it felt like I might have a nervous breakdown if I didn't have them.”      - Cherrie Currie

“Drugs suck more than anything else I have ever liked so much.” - Ashley Lorenzana

And finally, some good, old fashioned inspirational quotes for you guys...

"Why give up everything for one thing when you can give up one thing for everything"
 
“Things do not change; we change.” - Henry David Thoreau
 
“Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.” - Mark Twain

“More people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them.” - Harold J. Smith
 
"You know you're an alcoholic when you misplace things--like a decade." - Paul Williams
 
"People who have never had an addiction don't understand how hard it can be." - Payne Stewart

"No man can sincerely try to help another without first helping himself" Ralph W. Emerson

"When you are going through hell, keep going" - Winston Churchill

"Sometimes right back where you started is right back where you belong"

Alright guys, I hope you found these quotes helpful or motivational. Or maybe they even brought a smile or a laugh to your face. Addiction is something that can really suck and can make things in life quite difficult. I wish I had all the answers not just for you guys, but myself. One thing I do know is that it's always better being clean or trying to get clean then living a life addicted to something. Believe me, I've been there. I would wake up every day thinking about how and when I could get high and would go to bed each night thinking the same exact thing. Addiction is one hell of an ugly cycle. In my opinion, it's not really living when you become so dependent upon something. Quite frankly, it can be hell. However, if we put in an honest effort and really look deep within ourselves, there is light. It's not easy, I found that out the hard way, but it is possible.

Once we weather the storm and find a way out of it, there's a whole new world waiting for us. I think there's a saying about a rainbow always coming after a storm. Whether you're currently using, are in the process of getting clean, or have been clean for quite some time, there's always that monkey on our backs. To be honest with you, I don't think it ever truly goes away. But, we can contain it. It's not easy and can be scary but once again, it is possible. Just like how anyone can get high or become addicted to something, anyone can get sober. It might take you one try or it might you take you a thousand attempts, but in the end, if you can achieve sobriety, it's well worth it.

I really hope to have the chance to hear from you guys in the comment section about your thoughts on the matter but even if you just read this post and get a little something out of it, I'm happy. Please don't be shy to leave any comments or thoughts you may have, it can help a lot of people (myself included). The more comments, the merrier. Take care everyone and keep seeing the light, you might have to search a little but it's there, somewhere.

Best wishes,

Seeingthelight

Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Suboxone vs Methadone


Introduction

Hello once again my friends and welcome back to my blog about opiate addiction. This is my fifth and newest post on my blog (that suddenly isn't so new now). This blog is here to help anyone find information on a variety of topics in regards to opiate addiction. As someone who suffers from opiate addiction myself (a 2 year addiction to the Oxycodone 30 mg pills), I use this blog as a way to vent myself as well as to help any others suffering from addiction or knowing someone who does. An addiction to anything is a serious and often sensitive topic, but I'm hoping this blog will allow others (myself included) to not only find information on the matter but to also have the opportunity to speak their minds as well about the matter.

I have noticed an increase in page views for my blog, which made me very happy that this information is getting out there. However, I've yet to have anyone comment yet so please, please don't be afraid to comment on any of my posts. Hopefully we can get some conversations going and I will also answer you guys back as soon as I can, even on older posts. Like always, you guys can check out my other previous posts from my blog by clicking on any of the following links below (in order from 1st post to most recent post):

Welcome (1st Post)
My Experience With Suboxone
The Dreaded Withdrawals
Why We Got Addicted To Opiates


I would like this particular post to discuss and compare two methods that are commonly used to help those suffering from opiate addiction. The two methods are Suboxone and Methadone, and although used for the same purpose of treating opiate addiction, they are both indeed very different. It is also important to note that these two drugs can be used for other things as well but I am just going to focus on their use as a tool in helping with opiate addiction. Basically, I'll give you guys some brief background information on both, compare them, and briefly speak about my experience with Suboxone (I've never used Methadone myself), and will leave the rest to you guys to hopefully generate some conversation within the comment section. Feel free to comment any information you have about this topic, your experiences with either of the drugs, your likes or dislikes of either, and any suggestions you have towards this post or the blog in general. OK, lets begin.


Suboxone or Methadone, That Is The Question

Methadone (top, white pills)
And Suboxone (bottom, orange pills)

Suboxone and Methadone are both drug medications that can be used for the purpose of helping opiate addicts eventually overcome their addiction to their drug of choice (DOC). The next most common action to take besides Suboxone or Methadone treatment is going cold turkey, although there are other ways as well. Suboxone and Methadone are preferred by many as they can help patients avoid withdrawals from stopping use of their DOC temporally until they choose to stop treatment with the Methadone or Suboxone, and opiates altogether. I want to stress this as while these two drugs will prevent most withdrawals and discomfort you would normally experience if you were to stop opiates altogether by going cold turkey, these two drugs carry the risk of withdrawals themselves when stopping them. I'm sure most of you guys know this already, but cold turkey is when one stops using their DOC without the aid of any replacement. So if someone like myself were using Oxycodone everyday for 2 years, then suddenly decided to stop opiates altogether, I would be going cold turkey. It should be noted that opiate withdrawal can be dangerous and is usually a painstaking experience. This is why it is important to not do anything drastic without first alerting those closet to you, your doctor, and your support network.

Withdrawals are the discomfort you feel when you stop using your DOC after a period time of continued use. Withdrawals vary based upon the person, drug they were using, length of time they were using, method of using, and dosage of the drug they were using. Some medications, like Advil, carry no risk of withdrawal while others, such as Oxycodone, Suboxone, Methadone, Valium, Xanex, and numerous others can bring about withdrawals after discontinuing of use. Some common symptoms (among many others) of opiate withdrawals are listed below:

Chills/Goosebumps
Cold Sweats
Headache
Soreness/Aches
Pins and Needles Feelings
Stomach Discomfort/Cramps
Restless Legs
Trouble Sleeping/Insomnia
Dizziness
Diarrhea/Trouble Going Bathroom
Loss of Appetite
Anxiety
Irritability
Lack of Energy
Runny Nose
Yawning
Feeling of the Common Cold/Flu
Depression/Emotional Issues

Quite frankly, these withdrawals suck and can make getting off opiates very challenging. The most common reasons that people struggle with when getting clean are these withdrawals along with the emotional drain opiate withdrawal can bring. It is very hard, but not impossible. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with going cold turkey (under the right supervision). I also believe there is nothing wrong with using Suboxone or Methadone as a tool get clean off opiates as long as you truly have the desire to get off of opiates and aren't just getting a prescription for these drugs so you can have a supply of what I like to call "Backup Pills" in case you run out early, can't find any opiates, or don't have money to buy opiates. I only say this (and I realize I might sound like a jerk) because I once did this and know of others who did this. In my opinion, you cannot get clean and stay clean if you do not have the true desire to get clean (unless of course, you're locked up in jail or forced into a program). Believe me, I know how tough it can be to battle an addiction and I realize that people who go the Suboxone or Methadone route face just as much difficulty as those who go cold turkey. I am currently over 4 months clean off of Oxycodone after a 2 year habit of using 180-300 mg of Oxycodone a day at the height of my addiction. I have tried going cold turkey myself but could never stay clean very long, which resulted in me eventually going with an outpatient Suboxone program which has really helped me. However, I am not saying cold turkey is impossible as everyone is different and everyone needs there own type of care and rehabilitation. At the end of the day, it's not the route you went to get clean, it's the fact that you managed to get clean that counts the most.


Drugs? For a Drug Addict? Huh?

As I mentioned before, Suboxone and Methadone are given to patients for a period of time to help them overcome their addiction to opiates. Both Suboxone and Methadone are addicting and can be habit forming, especially if misused. So, why the hell would a doctor prescribed something addictive to an addict? The answer is a variety of reasons. Suboxone and Methadone allow patients the ability to stay away from their DOC while being able to continue their lives without the dreaded withdrawals we would normally face if not for the Suboxone or Methadone. This can be very important as it allows patients the opportunity to take their Suboxone or Methadone, stay practically withdrawal free for the time being, and get their lives back together. While on Suboxone or Methadone, patients can find jobs/careers, go to school, take care of their families/children, and other everyday things. Think about how hard it would be having to wake up early, go to work, come home to do some house work, make dinner, help the kids with homework, and going to little Jimmy's little league baseball game all while having to experience opiate withdrawals. This is why Suboxone and Methadone are preferred by so many people.

Another major reason people turn to Methadone and Suboxone is because it can help with cravings as well. Like I said before, these drugs aren't some miracle drugs that cure addiction and cravings but rather eases them. Based on my experience with Suboxone, I still get cravings here and there but would say they are greatly reduced with the use of the Suboxone. Keep in mind through that everyone is different. By being able to stay away from using your DOC, your mind, body, and schedule begin to change to what it was like before you started your addiction. Rather then waking up everyday craving your DOC (and for some, spending your entire day and night looking for more chasing that high), you are able to live a more normal life without constantly worrying about scoring your next high. Nearly all Suboxone and Methadone programs require their patients to submit to drug testing and to meet with doctors and/or consulars frequently, which help keep your life more structured with having someone to answer to if you screw up (it happens to the best of us).

OK, now that we got the good stuff out of the way, lets take a look at the bad stuff. Suboxone and Methadone unfortunately are addicting and can be habit forming. When the day comes when you and your support team decide that it is time to stop using either the Suboxone or Methadone, you will most likely experience some withdrawals. As I've said practically a million times already, everyone is different so it is tough to say how good or bad your withdrawals from Methadone or Suboxone will be. From what I have heard, it appears that Suboxone and Methadone withdrawals are not as bad as say Oxycodone withdrawal, but last wayyyy longer. Based on what I have been told and have read, the physical withdrawals from Suboxone appears to last any where from 7-21 days while the mental withdrawals take quite some time. The physical withdrawals from Suboxone are similar to those of most opiates. Once again, from what I have read, not experienced, the mental withdrawals and mind games continue for months and it usually takes a good 6 months to a year until your mind begins to feel almost completely normal. It sucks to hear, I know, but I want to be upfront and honest with you guys and not sugarcoat things. Everyone is different through so at the end of the day, who knows exactly how good or bad it will truly be.

OK, now this is where having people comment on these posts comes in handy. I have never taken Methadone myself and am getting most of my research from what I have heard from other people (people who have used it, my consular, and my doctor) and from what I have read. I do not want to sound like I am bashing Methadone on here so please excuse me if I sound that way. Basically, from what I have read and heard is that Methadone basically works just as well as Suboxone with keeping withdrawals and cravings at bay, but is much harder to come off than Suboxone or say, Oxycodone. In fact, I have heard that Methadone is one of the most difficult drugs to come off of. From what I have researched, it appears physical withdrawals last for weeks, or even months and can be quite uncomfortable to put it nicely. A common phrase I have heard to describe Methadone withdrawal is that "it gets in your bones." I'll let you guys take that phrase however you want to but it certainly scared me. The mental withdrawals are supposed to be just as bad as those of Suboxone, if not worse. Again, I do not want to bash Methadone as it has been around for quite awhile in the addiction community so it must be doing something right. I have also heard that it is not uncommon for patients of Methadone clinics to have to go every day to get their dose, while Suboxone can usually be obtained on a weekly, biweekly, or even monthly basis. I have also heard that the process of getting accepted into a Methadone program can be quite long and tiring, although I must say that I had to call around and search around for roughly 3 weeks before being accepted into a Suboxone program. Once again, please don't think that I have something against Methadone, I am just telling you guys what I have read and that this is where having you guys who have experience and knowledge of this topic comment can be very beneficial to others (myself included). The most important thing I can tell you is that to do your research and to talk honestly/frequently with your doctor and support network. Do not be afraid to ask questions/recommendations from these professionals on matters such as these, it can help a lot.

I know that Suboxone and Methadone can be used for variety of time periods. I have heard of people doing quick tapers with both (1 month or less), others who go 3 months-1 year, and others who go years on these drugs. I have also read, but never met, people who supposedly are on a Suboxone or Methadone program for life (not sure if this is just people talking out of their ass or if this really does happen so take it with a grain of salt if you wish). It is important you do your research and really talk it over with your support network with whatever method you choose as it is a decision that can basically affect the rest of your life and the path you choose you to go. I'm currently 4 months into a Suboxone program and was started at a relatively small dose (4 mg once a day) which I have stayed on since. The plan is that I will eventually start a process of tapering and will hopefully be off of all opiates within a year or so. I may also look into giving the Vivitrol shot a try after the Suboxone if I feel it to be necessary (I will hopefully write a post about the Vivitrol shot soon). Not only do I not have any experience with Methadone, but I have no experience with Suboxone withdrawal (besides going like 36 hours a couple times without a dose) so use your own judgement along with your research and doctor recommendations. Again, don't try to play doctor with these drugs adjusting your doses without permission as it can hurt you in the long run or even be dangerous. I know it can be tempting, but it can also be quite costly. Be smart my friends.


Suboxone

Suboxone Pills (top) and Suboxone Film (bottom)

Now that we compared the two drugs, lets take a quick look at each one individually. We'll start with Suboxone. Suboxone is a semi-synthetic opioid that is taken sublingually. Suboxone comes in either a pill form or in film form in dosages of either 2 mg or 8 mg. Suboxone is a relatively new drug in the opiate addiction community as it first entered the market for the treatment of opiate addiction in 2002 after being approved by FDA. There is a somewhat lack of information of Suboxone for long term use as the drug is still pretty new. It was however used from the 1960s to today as a  analgesics, although its primary use today is for both alcohol and opiate dependence.

The two main ingredients in Suboxone are Buprenorphine HCl and Naloxone HCl. The Buprenorphine is a opioid while the Naloxone is a opioid inverse agonist. The Burprenorphine is used to help keep the withdrawals and cravings at bay because when you take it, your body is still getting an opiate in it just like if you were to take say Oxycodone. However, it should be noted that Burprenorphine is a completely different drug in its own right than Oxycodone as both are their own kind of drug. The Naloxone is added into the Suboxone to prevent patients from abusing the drug. If a patient were to attempt to snort or inject Suboxone, they risk the possibility of going into precipitated withdrawals as the Naloxone will cause a nasty reaction with the Burprenorphine. The reason you will not go into precipitated withdrawals if you take Suboxone sublingually as directed is because the Naloxone is poorly absorbed when taken underneath the tongue where as it is better absorbed through the mucus membranes (snorting) or blood (injection). Suboxone should not be taken until your body has detoxed itself from other opiates such as Oxycodone as it can lead to precipitated withdrawals if you do not wait long enough to take your dose of Suboxone after you last used another opiate. Each opiate is different in the time it takes to leave your body and each can react differently with other drugs so it is important that you do your research and talk with your doctor about this matter (Man, I don't think I can stress that enough!)

Like Methadone, not all doctors can prescribe Suboxone so you must find one who does. Don't expect your primary care doctor to be able to prescribe Suboxone or Methadone as law requires doctors who prescribe these drugs to be licensed and trained in addiction treatment. However, it is important you keep your doctor up to date with your use of Suboxone or Methadone along with your addiction and other health issues. Along with Methadone, most Suboxone programs require patients to submit to drug testing, see an addiction doctor, and to see a drug consular. Some programs require you to see these people more frequently than others and each program has its own set of rules, guidelines, requirements, and beliefs. It is important to note that in terms of mg's strength, Suboxone is a pretty powerful drug. It's not a drug that will get you high (although some people report experiencing a slight buzz/high the first couple of times they take it) but don't let that statement fool you. For example, someone who is down to 1-2 mg of Suboxone can still experience symptoms of withdrawals, proving how powerful this drug is. I say this because when many people taper off of Suboxone and get down to a dose below 2 mg, they think they will most likely experience little to no withdrawals. While tapering certainly helps, it must be done slowly and patiently and even then, a person will most likely experience some withdrawals. Once again, everyone is different through.


Methadone

Alright, let's now take a look at Methadone. Methadone is classified as a semi-synthetic opioid that is used primary as an analgesic and for opiate dependence. Methadone has been in the addiction community far longer than Suboxone and there is quite a lot of information and research on Methadone out there. I highly suggest you get to know the drugs you put in your body, and I say this for any kind drug. Methadone was originally developed in Germany during the 1930s and is still widely used throughout the world today. The same receptors in which drugs such as heroin and morphine affect, are affected by Methadone which makes this drug quite useful in treating opiate addiction. Like Suboxone, Methadone must be taken under the supervision of a doctor and program with patients having to detox themselves off of any opiates before taking their first dose. Similar to Suboxone, patients who do not wait long enough after their last dose of opiate can risk going into precipitated withdrawal if the Methadone is taken too soon. Methadone programs may require patients to visit methadone clinics daily and may require the patient to take their dose in front of a nurse or doctor. However, after a period of time of meeting program requirements, patients may be given larger quantities of Methadone to take home (such as a week's supply). Methadone can come in a pill form, a pill to be taken sublingually, or in liquid form depending upon the patient, program, and situation at hand.

Like Suboxone, Methadone can be addicting and habit forming while also carrying the potential of being abused. Some users report being able to achieve a high/buzz off Methadone but it is known that Methadone tolerance can be built up relatively fast. Methadone treatment is usually ended after a period of tapering and when patients quit using Methadone, they risk facing withdrawals. As mentioned before, Methadone withdrawals can last anywhere from period of weeks to months depending on the person and their situation. It should be noted that research does suggest however, that when taken properly, patients can achieve success in maintaining sobriety and that Methadone has certainly proven successful for many. A new trend has emerged in which patients are put on Methadone over a period of time, then slowly taper down their dose before switching over to Suboxone. I have not met anyone who has gone this route but it does sound pretty interesting. However, in my opinion I feel you're better off just going with Suboxone if you plan on going this route as why waste your time with the Methadone to just eventually switch over to Suboxone? But, hey, I'm sure doctors have their reasons and know a hell of a lot more than I do.

Common Side Effects of Methadone

I found the following information from Wikipedia (I know, I know, take it however you wish) and thought it may be helpful for you guys to read. It is basically a comparison between Suboxone and Methadone. I just copied and pasted it below while putting it in blue font.

"Buprenorphine and methadone are medications used for detoxification, short- and long-term maintenance treatment. Each agent has its relative advantages and disadvantages.
In terms of efficacy (i.e., treatment retention, mostly negative urine samples), high-dose buprenorphine (such as that commonly found with Subutex/Suboxone treatment; 8–16 mg typically) has been found to be superior to 20–40 mg of methadone per day (low dose) and equatable anywhere between 50–70 mg (moderate dose),[23] to up to 100 mg (high dose)[24] of methadone a day. In all cases, high-dose buprenorphine has been found to be far superior to placebo and an effective treatment for opioid addiction, with retention rates of 50% as a minimum.[23][24][25][26] It is also worth noting that while methadone's effectiveness is generally thought to increase with dose, buprenorphine has a ceiling effect at 32 mg.[27] That is, while a methadone dose of 80 mg will likely be more effective than a methadone dose of 60 mg (see Methadone dosage), a buprenorphine dose of 40 mg will not be more effective than a buprenorphine dose of 32 mg.
Buprenorphine sublingual tablets (Suboxone and Subutex for opioid addiction) have a long duration of action, which may allow for dosing every two or three days, as tolerated by the patient, compared with the daily dosing (some patients receive twice daily dosing) required to prevent withdrawals with methadone. In the United States, following initial management, a patient is typically prescribed up to a one-month supply for self-administration. It is often misunderstood that the patient has to receive other therapy in this situation, but the law simply states that the prescribing physician needs to be capable of referring the patient to other addiction treatment, such as psychotherapy or support groups.
Buprenorphine may be more convenient for some users because patients can be given a thirty-day take-home dose relatively soon after starting treatment, hence making treatment more convenient relative to those needing to visit a methadone dispensing facility daily. The facilities, which are regulated at the state and federal level in the US, initially are permitted to allow patients to receive take-home doses (to be self-administered at the appropriate time) only on a day when the clinic is regularly closed or on a pre-scheduled holiday. It is only after a minimum of several months of compliance (i.e., proven sobriety, demonstration of being able to safely store the medication) that patients of methadone clinics in most countries are permitted regularly scheduled take-home doses aside from the possible exceptions for weekends and holidays. Ultimately, American patients on methadone maintenance therapy are permitted a maximum of a one-month supply of take-home medication, and this is permitted only after a minimum of two years compliance. In the US state of Florida, patients cannot receive a one-month supply until five years of compliance. Most buprenorphine patients are not prescribed more than one month's worth of buprenorphine at a time. However, buprenorphine patients, as a rule, are able to get their one-month supply much earlier in their use of the drug than methadone patients.
Buprenorphine as a maintenance treatment thereby offers an advantage of convenience over methadone. In general, buprenorphine patients are also not required to make daily office visits and are often very quickly permitted to obtain a one-month prescription for the medication. Methadone patients in the United States who are not subject to additional strictures beyond the federal law regarding a patient's take-home supply also benefit in convenience. States with excessive regulation on methadone dispensation see professionals advocating for office-based methadone treatment, similar to the standard of office-based buprenorphine treatment. Such treatment with full opiate agonists is already available on a limited basis in the UK, and has been ever since heroin was made illegal, with an interruption of a few decades, which occurred, likely under pressure from the United States[citation needed] during the worldwide escalation of the War on Drugs, which occurred during the 1960s and 1970s. In fact, in the UK a doctor may prescribe any opiate to a patient, regardless of their complaint (excluding diamorphine and dipipanone for addiction, where they require a special licence from the Home Office). In practice, methadone is most often used, although morphine and heroin are also less frequently prescribed on a maintenance basis. The UK has a smaller number of opiate users, per capita, than the United States[citation needed], which many attribute to the availability of full opiate agonist prescriptions to users, which reduces the amount of opiates sold illicitly and, in turn, the number of users of other drugs who encounter and begin using the opiates. Therefore, it could be argued that buprenorphine may not be as attractive a treatment option in the UK due to full opiate agonists such as heroin maintenance being an option for a small number of addicts seeking treatment. (See Heroin prescription.)
Buprenorphine may have, and is generally viewed to have, a lower dependence-liability than methadone. In other words, withdrawal from buprenorphine is less difficult. Like methadone treatment, buprenorphine treatment can last anywhere from several days (for detoxification purposes) to an indefinite period of time (lifelong maintenance) if patient and doctor both feel that is the best course of action. Additionally, the opinion of those in the medication-assisted treatment field is generally shifting to longer-term treatment periods, which may last indefinitely, due to the anti-depressant effects opioids seem to have on some patients as well as the high relapse potential among those patients discontinuing maintenance therapy. The choice of buprenorphine versus methadone in the mentioned situation (by the patient) is usually due to the benefits of the less-restrictive outpatient treatment; prescriptions for take-home doses for up to a month early versus the possibility of heavy restrictions in some states and frequent visits to the clinic and the possibility of the "stigma" of going to a methadone clinic as compared to making trips to a doctor's office. Buprenorphine is also significantly more expensive than methadone and this seems to add to its better reputation. Also, in some states, there is a long waiting list for admission to a methadone maintenance program versus those with the money to afford seeing an addiction specialist each month in addition to the cost of medication. In studies done, methadone is considered more addicting physically and mentally.[citation needed] The sometimes less-severe withdrawal effects may make it easier for some patients to discontinue use as compared with methadone, which is generally thought to be associated with a more severe and prolonged withdrawal. However, no evidence thus far exists that sustaining abstinence post-buprenorphine maintenance is any more likely than post-methadone maintenance.
Another issue of concern for patients considering beginning any maintenance therapy or switching from one maintenance therapy to another is the transition associated with this switch. Due to buprenorphine's high-affinity to opioid receptors in the brain, care needs to be taken when a patient is transitioning from one drug (e.g., heroin) or medication (e.g., methadone) to buprenorphine. In essence, if an opioid-dependent patient is not in sufficient withdrawal, introduction of buprenorphine may precipitate withdrawal. In lay terms, in a sufficient dose, buprenorphine "pushes" any other opioids off of the receptors, but is itself not always "strong enough" to counteract the withdrawal symptoms this causes.[28] Thus, opioid-dependent patients, in particular those on methadone or another long-acting medication or drug, should be thoroughly honest with their prescribing doctor about their drug use, in particular in the days immediately preceding their induction onto buprenorphine, whether for detoxification or maintenance. In contrast, in general the transition from buprenorphine or other opioids to methadone is easier, and any discomfort or side-effects are more likely to be easily remedied with dose adjustments.
Buprenorphine, as a partial μ-opioid receptor agonist, has been claimed and is generally viewed to have a less euphoric effect compared to the full agonist methadone, and was therefore predicted less likely to be diverted to the black market (as reflected by its Schedule III status versus methadone's more restrictive Schedule II status in the USA), as well as that buprenorphine is generally accepted as having less potential for abuse than methadone. It is also worth noting that neither methadone nor buprenorphine causes euphoria when taken long-term at the appropriate dose. However, in at least one study in which opiate users who were currently not using an opioid were given buprenorphine, several other opioids, and placebo intramuscularly, subjects identified the drug they were injected with as heroin when it was actually buprenorphine.[29] This evidence tends to support the contentions of those who reject the notion that buprenorphine, when injected, is only marginally euphoric, or significantly less euphoric than other opiates.
In an effort to prevent injection of the drug, the Suboxone formulation includes naloxone in addition to the buprenorphine. When naloxone is injected, it is supposed to precipitate opiate withdrawal and blocks the effects of any opiate. The naloxone does not precipitate withdrawal or block the effect of the buprenorphine when taken sublingually. The Subutex formulation does not include naloxone, and therefore has a higher potential for injection abuse. However, Subutex is prescribed significantly less than Suboxone for just this reason. Methadone, on the other hand, is typically given to patients at clinics in a liquid solution, to which in general water is added. This makes injection difficult without evaporating the liquid and taking other measures. Therefore, injection of buprenorphine as found in the preparations provided to opiate users is simpler than injection of methadone, although data on the relative incidence is not currently available. Although, in general, methadone is not a drug of choice for opioid addicts due to its long-acting nature and relatively little euphoria associated with its use, especially when compared to other drugs of abuse such as heroin and Oxycodone, it is used by addicts to relieve withdrawal symptoms when their opiate of choice cannot be obtained. Most methadone bought from the black market is thought to be bought by already opioid-dependent persons attempting to circumvent the substance abuse treatment system and detoxify themselves with the methadone or simply by people wishing to use the drug recreationally, just as other opiates are used. In the US, buprenorphine is found far less often on the black market as compared to methadone.In North America (Canada) it is reversed, buprenorphine is found to be readily available on the black market,as methadone is usually not seen,buprenorphine is as easy to obtain as heroin.[citation needed]. The vast majority of the methadone diverted to the black market is not diverted from methadone clinics for opioid dependent persons, but rather it is diverted by a minority of the people who receive prescription methadone for pain[citation needed]
Since the late 90s in Austria, slow release oral morphine has been used alongside methadone and buprenorphine for OST and more recently it has been approved in Slovenia and Bulgaria, and it has gained approval in other EU nations including the United Kingdom, although its use currently is not as widespread. The more attractive side-effect profile of morphine compared to buprenorphine or methadone has led to the adoption of morphine as an OST treatment option, and currently in Vienna over 60 percent of substitution therapy utilizes slow release oral morphine. Illicit diversion has been a problem, but, to the many proponents of the utilization of morphine for OST, the benefits far outweigh the costs, taking into account the much higher percentage of addicts who are "held" or, from another perspective, satisfied by this treatment option, as opposed to methadone and buprenorphine treated addicts, who are more likely to forgo their treatment and revert to using heroin etc., in many cases by selling their methadone or buprenorphine prescriptions to afford their opiate of choice. Driving impairment tests done in the Netherlands that have shown morphine to have the least negative effects on cognitive ability on a number of mental tasks also suggest morphines use in OST may allow for better functioning and engagement in society."

I have also included some links below that provide further insight into Suboxone and Methadone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methadone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buprenorphine
http://www.suboxone.com/
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/methadone
http://www.treatmentsolutions.com/the-debate-over-drug-abuse-treatment-methadone-vs-buprenorphine/
http://www.drugrehabranch.com/staff-articles-and-drug-treatment-news/suboxone-or-methadone-which-is-right-for-you

Conclusion

Alright guys, well I hope that was enough reading for you all and wasn't too boring. I'll say this just one more time. I have used Suboxone for 4 months now (4 mg once a day) as the result of battling a addiction to the Oxycodone 30 mg pills. I have remained clean off of all other opiates and any other kinds of drugs as well. I have yet to experience Suboxone withdrawal although I have experienced Oxycodone withdrawal numerous times (it sucks!). I have also never once tried Methadone and thus have never experienced Methadone withdrawal. If you were to ask me which of the two drugs I would recommend, I would simply say that I have no experience with Methadone but that the Suboxone program I am currently on has been very helpful in me reaching my goal of clean living. So far, so good with the Suboxone and I hope to be careful/patient with my tapering so I can be best prepared for whatever withdrawals I may face when the day to stop using Suboxone comes for me.

Most of the information I have provided for both of these drugs comes from my own experiences, addicts I have talked with, doctors/consulars I have talked with, and what I have read in books or online. I'm not here to neither promote or knock any medication or drug, I simply wish to provide you guys with some information I think you may find useful. I really can't stress how important it is to do your research and talk with your doctors, don't just go by my stuff or what you think only. There's a reason those people are professionals and I'm some guy writing on an online blog (hey I'm being honest, but I really do hope I'm helping some people). Once again, thank you guys so much for reading my blog and the only thing I can ask of you guys is to please comment. I really do think hearing from numerous people will be very beneficial for everyone involved on this blog.

Until next time my friends, be careful, responsible, and most importantly happy. And remember, keep seeing that light. Believe me, it's out there somewhere.

Take Care Guys,

Seeingthelight

Wednesday, August 8, 2012

My Experience With Suboxone

Hello everyone. I would like to welcome any readers of my previous post (Welcome Opiate Addicts) as well any new comers to my blog. If you want a introduction to my blog, the rules of the blog, what we stand for, and a quick history about myself and my addiction feel free to check out the following link: http://welcomefellowopiateaddicts.blogspot.com/2012/08/welcome.html
I would like to use this blog post to discuss my experience with the drug Suboxone. I think most people on here have either heard of Suboxone or may have even used it but bear with me as I give some quick information about it to those who have little to no experience with this drug. Suboxone is used for a variety of things, most notably as an aid to help with both alcohol and opiate addiction. I won't go into much detail about the drug itself as I'm not a doctor and don't want this to seem like a lecture. Basically, Suboxone is classified as semi-synthetic opioid and consists of two main ingredients. These ingredients are Buprenorphine HCl and Naloxone HCl. The Buprenorphine is what will help with the withdrawals one would experience if he or she were stop using opiates after a period of time of continued use. Think of this ingredient as an opiate just like oxycodone ( I realize they are both completely different drugs but I'm trying to make things simple for now). Now one would ask why the hell would a doctor prescribe an opiate addict with an opiate to help battle addiction? This is where the next ingredient comes into play. The second ingredient is the Naloxone which is put into the Suboxone as a means of preventing abuse. The Naloxone prevents users from snorting, swallowing, or injecting the Suboxone as an attempt to get high off of the Buprenorphine. Users of Suboxone must take it sublingually (under the tongue) and if one is try to abuse the Suboxone by snorting or injecting it, they will instantly become sick due to the presence of the Naloxone.

Suboxone 8 mg Pill

Suboxone helps a lot of opiate addicts for a number of reasons. The most popular reason being that the Suboxone will help prevent most withdrawal symptoms that one would experience if they were to go cold turkey off their drug of choice (DOC) opiate without the aid of Suboxone. The body does not go into withdrawals due to the presence of an opiate being in the body (the Buprenorphine). If Suboxone is taken correctly, it allows a person to be able to continue their everyday lives comfortably without the fear of withdrawals. This can be crucial for those who have to work, go to school, take care of children, ect...Another reason why Suboxone has become so popular over the years recently is due to its ability to help deal with cravings. Because your body is getting an opiate with the Suboxone, the brain receptors (see for more information on how addiction affects the brain) are able to stay relatively normal. However this is NOT to say, from both knowledge and personal experiences, that the Suboxone is some miracle drug that will completely take away all cravings. However, I will say it does help and to help combat these cravings is where meetings (AA or NA) combined with talking with a friend, family member, or consular can come in handy.
For more information about Suboxone, check out the following links:

http://www.suboxone.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buprenorphine
http://www.drugs.com/suboxone.html
http://www.rxlist.com/suboxone-drug.htm
Now that we're finished with my chemistry lesson on Suboxone, lets move on to my experience with the drug. I won't go into full detail about my past (I did this in my first post if you wish to know more check it out) but to paint a better picture I'll tell my fellow readers some quick facts. I'm a 25 year old male who has had an addiction to the Oxycodone 30 mg pills. My use of the drug has lasted over 3 years and I was using the drug on a daily basis for 2 years. I am currently prescribed Suboxone through a outpatient program and see both a consular and doctor weekly. I simply take life day by day and I am currently almost 4 months clean off of Oxycodone with the help of the Suboxone. I have also not smoked weed or done any other drugs or drinking besides tobacco. If you were to ask me on a scale of 1-10 on how I would rate my overall experience with Suboxone thus far, I would give it a 8. If you were to ask me how I currently feel on a scale of 1-10, I would say between a 7-8. Overall, I believe Suboxone can be a useful tool in helping one battle their addiction to Oxycodone or other such opiates.
If you are interested into getting on a Suboxone program, there are a few steps you must do and things you should know. First, it is important that you go into a program such as this with the true desire of getting clean. Don't be joining a program such as this to simply have a prescription for "backup pills" in case you can't find or have the money for opiates. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but am saying this because programs can only accept a certain number of people to prescribe Suboxone to so why take someones spot who is truly attempting to get clean? Also, if you do fail out of the program, it gives you a bad reputation and could make getting help in the future more difficult than it has to be. The next thing you should know going into a program such as this is that it can be quite expensive. I can't talk for everyone but the costs of my program are not too bad but do create a little bit of a dent in the pockets. For example, I must see the doctor and consular each once a week. Each appointment I must pay a co-payment of $25. I also pay about $40 each time (every 2 weeks) for my Suboxone prescription. It really depends on your insurance and the place you are going too, so don't be surprised to hear and see different costs when going from place to place. I have heard of people with good insurance who pay practically nothing while I know of others who lack insurance and are forced to pay thousands if they wish to seek Suboxone treatment.  My best tip is do your research, make calls early and often, and find a place that you feel will truly help you in battling your addiction. The way I looked at it was that I would be spending more money buying Oxycodone off the streets if it were not for the outpatient program I am in.
It is important to note that not all doctors can prescribe Suboxone. In fact, doctors are required to obtain a license to prescribe Suboxone so don't expect your primary care doctor to be able to prescribe you Suboxone. However, it should be noted that it is important to keep your primary care doctor up to date with what is going on in your life and in regards to your health. Finding a doctor who can prescribe Suboxone is not very difficult. In fact, simply go to the following link: http://www.suboxone.com/patients/opioid_dependence/find_a_doctor.aspx , then go to the doctor locater tab where it will instruct you to enter your zip code. The website is ran by Suboxone and will help you find doctors who can prescribe Suboxone in the nearby area. Be sure to take down a couple names of doctors as you will most likely have to call around to find a program accepting new patients. You may get lucky and find a doctor accepting patients who lives right down the street. Or you may be less fortunate and be stuck with having to take a 45 minute drive each week to see the doctor. For me, I had to call 4 different places before I finally came across a place that was accepting new patients. The place ended up being pretty close to my house and is a pretty nice outpatient program to be in. If you are not successful getting into a program at first, do not give up! Be sure to make a list of places you have called and ask each receptionist to take down your name to call you back in case there are any future openings. You'd be surprised at how many and how frequently patients drop out of programs such as these.
While all programs and doctors are different, I am going to give you my experience and requirements during my program. A requirement of my program is that the patient must be willing to see a drug consular at least twice a month in addition to seeing the doctor once a week during the early stages of the program. During each visit with the doctor and consular, I am required to take a urine screen drug test. The drug test serves 2 purposes; (1) to make sure the patient is clean (2) to make sure the patient is taking the Suboxone and not selling it. The rule of thumb in my program was that if you fail the drug test you get a warning the first time. The next time you fail you are forced to take part in a intensive outpatient program which meets 3 days a week for 5 hours each day. The third time you fail the drug test you are kicked out of the program. Every program is different, some stricter then others. I have heard of people being able to smoke weed or drink while on the Suboxone program as long as they remained clean off opiates when testing. On the other hand, I have heard of people being kicked out of a program after failing a drug screen after a night out of drinking. In my opinion, the stricter, the better as it will help keep you on track. However, I am a big believer in 2nd chances and think everyone screws up once in awhile. I believe if a patient is really trying to get help and get clean, then the doctor should reevaluate the patient and determine whats best rather then just going by a strict set of rules.
The meetings with the doctor are always very quick (usually no more than 15 minutes) while the meetings with the drug consular run about an hour. The meetings with the doctor are basically for just making sure the patient is having no side effects and that the dosage is working for them. The meetings with the drug consular are more for helping the patient in dealing with their addiction and staying clean. Another requirement of the program is that the patient attend AA or NA meetings. However, in my program this isn't monitored so it is real easy to get around with not attending meetings. I personally have never been to a meeting in my life but I have heard countless stories of how they have really helped others with their struggles. My main reason behind not going is basically fear, not knowing what to expect, and running into someone I know. I am also a more realist type of person and while I am a Catholic, I am not overly religious. However, this is not to say AA or NA is all about religion because it is certainly not. In fact, these meetings do not associate themselves with a certain religion or set of beliefs. The 'Higher Power" you always hear about from these meetings can be anything you wish it to be. Some people chose God as there "Higher Power" while others simply refer to the group as their "Higher Power". I have heard of some people choosing things such as doorknobs, their pet dog, or their own mother as their choice of a "Higher Power." The only requirement for AA or NA is that those attending respect one another and have a desire to get clean. To check out both NA and AA meetings close to you, simply check out there websites. Again, I do not have much experience in regards to these meetings but certainly respect their ability to help others and even hope to check one out myself soon.



Some important things I would like to briefly touch upon with Suboxone:

  • Suboxone comes in a pill form or a strip form (think Listerine breath mint strips). Both to be dissolved under the tongue. The pill takes about 10-20 minutes to dissolve where the strips dissolve much faster (usually less then 5 minutes). Both have a rather nasty taste, although some people claim they like it. This was my experience with both the pills and strips anyways and I choose to stay with the strips over the pills.
  • Suboxone must be taken by placing either the pill or strip under the tongue and left to dissolve. If you try to swallow, snort, or inject Suboxone you risk the possibility of going into precipitated withdrawal due the Naloxone. The reason you do not go into precipitated withdrawal by taking the Suboxone under the tongue as directed is because the Nalaxone is not fully absorbed through the disgestive track in your body where as if you were to inject it or snort, it would be absorbed by other means causing these unwanted side effects.
  • Some people say they experience a slight high off of the Suboxone the first couple of times taking it. This high will usually not occur after you get used to the drug. In my experience I have never experienced a high when taking the Suboxone.
  • Suboxone will also limit your ability to get high off of other opiates while you are on Suboxone.
  • It is extremely important to remember that you must "detox" yourself off of any opiates before you take Suboxone. Each opiate has it's own length of time to leave your body before you can safely take the Suboxone. For example, you should be OK to take the Suboxone if you have given yourself at least 24 hours before your last dose of Oxycodone. Meanwhile a medication such as Methadone takes much longer. I do not have any experience with Methadone but from what I have heard, it takes a matter of days to even weeks before one can make the jump from Methadone to Suboxone. Do your research and talk with doctor about this matter before taking Suboxone. BE HONEST! You do not want to go into precipitated withdrawals because you didn't wait long enough to make the jump.
  • For the most part, Suboxone will help greatly with the withdrawals you would normally experience if you were to stop taking/go cold turkey off of an opiate. Everyone is different, some people feel 100% great while others still feel the effects of withdrawals when on Suboxone. For me, the Suboxone probably takes aways 90% of withdrawals I would normally experience if I were to stop taking opiates totally.
  • Suboxone doesn't take away all of the cravings but it does help significantly. This is where meetings, therapy, picking up new hobbies becomes important.
  • Suboxone is like nearly every other opiate in that it is also addicting and can be misused. You will eventually go through withdrawals when coming off of Suboxone. From my experience and what I have heard, the withdrawals from Suboxone are not as bad as they are from say Oxycodone, but the withdrawals from Suboxone do drag out a little longer than other opiates. It is recommended that you slowly wean yourself off of Suboxone over a period of time best decided upon by yourself and your doctor.
  • Suboxone has a relatively long half life, meaning it takes longer to exit your body. This is why the withdrawals tend be longer then most opiates and why the withdrawals of Suboxone don't really start to kick in until about 36-72 hours off of your last dose of Suboxone.
  • Finally, Suboxone is only a tool to help you with ending your addiction to opiates. While some people stay on Suboxone for years or even life, most will eventually look to come off the Suboxone and opiates in general at some point of their lives. Suboxone is useful by allowing the user to avoid withdrawals but not get the feeling of being high while on it. It can allow users to get their lives back together, gather support, get jobs or start school, and learn about themselves. In my experience it helped a lot with the withdrawals and cravings but everyone is different. I honestly do not think I would be 4 months clean off Oxycodone if not for Suboxone and the support I am getting but again, everyone is different. You and doctor should decide whats best.

In my case, Suboxone has helped me greatly with getting my life back together and learning more about both myself and my addiction. I want to note that I didn't feel totally normal until about my third day of being on Suboxone. I believe this may have been because my body was getting used to the drug and it needed to build up in my system. Getting drug tested and talking with my consular, family, friends, and doctor has given me more structure and someone to answer to which helps greatly in my opinion. Suboxone is a powerful drug and as mentioned, can be addicting. If you can, try to start at a dose that's low yet helps you feel comfortable. I have been prescribed 4mg once a day and have stayed at this dose the entire 4 months of my recovery period. I was quite a heavy user of Oxycodone (180-300 mg a day) yet found this dose to be efficient. In my opinion, some doctors either over prescribe or under prescribe so it is important you talk well with your doctor. However, don't play doctor and mess around with your dosing, just be honest with yourself and support network. I would also like to note that there are other options to getting clean and Suboxone is just one of many. Once again, I cannot stress, do your research and talk with your support networks often.



This is my second post overall in my new blog that I have just created. As I said before, I am a addict of Oxycodone. My Drug of Choice (DOC) was the Oxycodone 30 mg pills (A215, M30, 224, Blue Vs). I am now about 4 months clean off of Oxycodone with the help of Suboxone (4mg once a day) and feel pretty good both physically and mentally. I am currently part of an outpatient program where I see a consular and doctor each once a week. Overall, the Suboxone has been a great tool in helping with overcoming my addiction and I hope to one day get off the Suboxone and be done with opiates completely. I will keep posting and encourage anyone who reads this to comment on any of my posts. If you have a friend or family member who suffers from an addiction such as Oxycodone or something similar feel free to tell them about my blog. I do not get any money or anything like that for doing this, I simply wish to share my experiences and knowledge in this area to help others. I would like to thank everyone who reads or comments on my blog and wish you all the best of luck in battling your inner demons. I know I am still pretty early in recovery but feel like I can help others through this blog. Again, thank you guys for listening and pitching in. And remember keep trying to see that light, it is there.

Take Care,

Seeingthelight